This is the Thrive Mastery podcast, I’m Craig Van, and I’m joined in this conversation by Mat Fisher – a specialist in Peak Experience states and coaching, reigning from Austin, Texas. Mat is one of the most grounded people I have spoken to in a while, and he has left me feeling motivated to be a better man.
In this episode of our TRE series, we manage to cover another angle of the TRE practise, looking at its wide range of applications and yet again, just how useful this medicine can be.
Mat has a message for you if you are stuck in the modern story, climbing your way to the top of the mountain, not soaking up the beauty, and the joy, within the moment right in front of you. All while you wait for some different, or future moment to fulfill you. Stick around to hear what it is.
Mat has done lots of work on himself and has tons of experience coaching all kinds of people – previously working as a personal trainer, and currently coaching high performers to access peak experiences. As a man, Mat is a leader, a north star that we can use to direct ourselves towards our own more meaningful experiences.
Mat has worked with all kinds of people over the years and has worked with them for many different reasons and goals.
- Working IN, instead of working out (as Paul Chek discusses) as a means to restore, instead of breaking down and building.
- No matter what you find when you start to look in, no matter how scary, you either have to deal with it or let it go all the way to the grave with you – carry it all the way through life with you.
- Throughout our chat, you can sense Mat’s insight as a coach, and his experience of working intensely with people.
- Mat explains that his clients are usually motivated to achieve certain things externally, and when he can show them how working on certain things internally will support their external pursuits more effectively. They start to value the internal work more and more.
- The thing that Mat has seen more than any other that stops people from doing meaningful work on themselves is that there is so much work to be done.
- Mat sheds light on the realm of play that we have left behind in our childhood, to our detriment, and how we can tap into our flow and peak experiences by remembering how to play. It can be a journey of realising that each moment has joy and fun and fulfillment, and it is not merely a means to an end.
- He also shares with us his journey into TRE, how he discovered it through his own Podcast Integrated Human, and how he’s has experienced profound spiritual-like experiences and more simple physical recoveries after intense exercise.
- TRE benefits vastly different aspects ourselves, aspects which many people would consider to be separate – but Mat explains beautifully that it is only our perception which creates the separation, all aspects of our self are in reality, connected.
- We discuss the experience of stress and how Mat has traversed it in the past. He has deliberately used TRE as a state-change mechanism after work, before going home to his family. We can learn so much from Mat’s self-awareness, what he has observed in himself, and how he has managed to optimise his state of mind and body.
- We agreed that the TRE practise makes reaching a relaxed state, a state of calm and stillness, more accessible for most modern, western people. And, how being in a relaxed state can allow us to perform better, mentally and physically.
- Mat drives the point home – if we are not intentional about our state and situation, then we are being controlled by many involuntary forces from inside and out. And we agree that as tough and long as the path of personal growth is, all the alternatives are not acceptable.
- And finally, I manage to squeeze out just a little more of Mat’s wisdom, on the topic of masculine fulfillment leading to relationship fulfillment – as men, finding our authenticity and a sense of purpose is paramount.
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